Written by Site Admin ( The author is not Pierre Ethier)
Below is a summary of concerns raised by Karen De La Carriere in regard to the lack of proper auditor training for delivery of the Ls in the independent field. IFA / APIS did not provide me with a response and did not address their certification scheme shortcomings in the light of the issues raised below. I want to thank Karen for raising the concerns below and to thank her for taking the safety of the PCs at heart. It requires an impressive amount of dedication in studies and perfection of your own techniques to master the proper delivery of the Ls. It is even more impressive the amount of care about the wellbeing of the PC that motivated auditors like Karen to master their tech.
The current situation is that untrained auditors deliver while PR-ing their business practice with “success stories” and no case gain. On the background are their failed cases spiritually broken, hopeless and desperate. There were instances of corrupt practices sabotaging the PC ‘s spiritual case. Those practices led to botched Ls and/or extended the delivery time cycle for practitioner’s financial profit to four or even ten times beyond the normal Ls delivery cycle. It is unethical for a trainee to use the PC as a “cash cow” while charging excessive hourly rates. For example the average standardly delivered L12 should take not more than 25 hours delivered in a week. L11 should be delivered in a week and L10 takes 2-3 weeks. This is based on case average statistics of over 5000 cases. A warning sign of improper processing of L12 would be if you have received it in over 4 months period in 130 hours. The Ls are very powerful processing and are designed by LRH to be delivered on an intensive daily schedule in order to produce a successful case gain. The pricing for the Ls is recommended to be based on a flat fee for the whole completed cycle. It is definitely NOT recommended to get one session a week and if your auditor can not accommodate you in his schedule or shortchange you with advice that is against your best interest, this should be a warning sign. One session a week or less on the Ls is a violation of C/S Series #1. How trustworthy is a testimonial from an individual who is trying to promote their own business with violations of the basic auditing rules that LRH established himself. LRH has designed L11 and L12 to be delivered in about a week and L10 to be delivered in about 3 weeks.
An example of abuse comes to my mind , when a PC was forced to bare the cost of living out of town for 4 months and “completed” L12 in 130 hours paying to a junior class auditor more than what he would of paid in the Church of Scientology for a Class XII auditing. Normally this cycle should of taken less than a week and in 95% of the cases takes less than 2 intensives.
I strongly believe that auditors who really care about their PCs will undergo the proper training, including internships, studies and drills as described by Karen. The independent field needs to adhere to higher standards to KSW.
December 21, 2011
Karen De La Carriere: ….[name omitted ] ….. “never had any Ls training. He certainly did not have the very complex and unique training of Class X, XI and Class XII. There is an enormous study of LRH CSed folders and special testsn to understand why LRH CSed that way. ” ….[name omitted ] ….” never came anywhere near this section of the training.”
Karen De La Carriere : “ The Ls are like a Ferrari. Most people can drive one up to 100mph but the minute you get into 150 mph, when things so wrong, they go terribly wrong. The Ls are high performance spiritual work that require expert handling by qualified Ls auditors. This requires interneships and not done by reading ‘hat write ups”.”
Karen De La Carriere : “When something goes wrong …either in a high performance vehicle or intense spiritual work ~~ the results can be catastrophic if one does not know how to recover from trouble. Lisa Mcpherson, 3 weeks after L-11 (see the image on the web of her proudly displaying her L-11 Cert and smiling) went Type III, taking off her clothes and walking naked on Fort harrison Avenue. This is an example of how badly it can backfire.”
Karen De La Carriere : “What we are discussing is an expanded range, that which can boost you so high spiritually and take you into the lofty heights of heaven can also backfire in the other direction and send you into hell.”
Karen De La Carriere: “ I will never participate in any action that does not guarantee the safety and well being of pcs. Only knowing, training and understanding the length an breadth of the procedures and their remedies can give the results LRH intended for these rundowns.”
Karen De La Carriere : “One example of how Interneships are so vital is that the AUDITING STYLE of Ls auditing is different. You have to un-do all the TRs 1-4 you have ever learned all your life and learn “TR L10 style” It is designed to impact the case differe…ntly. This needs to be drilled and drilled and drilled on video and one has to watch one’ own videos day after day, month after month til one has perfected one’s performance and til it is second nature. There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each interneship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.”